Friday, September 05, 2008

The new unofficial #1 in the world


With Anand and Ivanchuk losing, and Carlsen winning, the young Norwegian phenom is now the new unofficial #1 player in the world. Congratulations to Magnus!

This is a great time for chess as things are quite exciting. The difference between #1 and #5 is less than 10 rating points! One game can turn the order of the top 5 upside down.

The new LIVE ratings after Bilbao round 4:

01 Carlsen 2791,3
02
Anand 2790,9

03 Morozevich 2787,0

04 Topalov 2786,2
05
Ivanchuk 2781,8

06 Kramnik 2771,9

07 Aronian 2754,1
08
Radjabov 2749,5

Source: http://chess.liverating.org/
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20 comments:

Anonymous said...

That makes tommorow's game Anand - Carlsen much more exciting.

Other games...

Inavchuk - Topalov (can Topa win 3rd time in a row?)

Radjabov - Aronian

... should be interesting too

Anonymous said...

Topalov will probably be number 1 by the end of this tournament judging by his form. He is 5 virtual rating points behind Carlsen which translates to half a point (in classical scoring system) which he could easily make up in 6 rounds.

Anonymous said...

Finally number one!! Just wait til the stomach problem is completely gone, then the 2800 mark will be passed.

<3 said...

WOO WOO WOO WOO!!!!!!!!! FINALLY!!!!! GO MAGNUS, YOU'RE THE BEST!!!!!! <3

Anonymous said...

Topalov's still better than Carlsen- he even beat him yesterday. Topalov is playing the best this tournament. He will probably be number 1 in October list- he just beat Anand. It is Topalov that brought down Anand to give Carlsen a temporary chance for virtual number 1- this is Topalov's time still. Give him credit.

Anonymous said...

Magnus is a really nice person. Topalov is not.
So Magnus is the best nr 1! ;-)

Anonymous said...

topalov makes carlsen look like a little child, topalov is much better when he is on form.

Anonymous said...

"topalov makes carlsen look like a little child"

Um, excuse me, but if we're talking class here, shouldn't that be the other way around??

And even if we set that aside, so what if Topalov beat Carlsen? So Carlsen is sick and has an excellent overall score against Topalov despite this loss. OK, Topa also beat Anand, that's a serious achievement, but keep in mind that Anand is playing with one hand tied behind his back becuause he's unable to give away his best openings.

All things considered, this comment is utterly meaningless.

Anonymous said...

anon # 8 is retarded, enough said.

Anonymous said...

lol. You are aware that if you count, YOU are anonymous number 8? I am no 9. :-)

Polo Mateo said...

It will be awhile before we see total domination of the Chess world as we saw with Kasparov and Karpov. We are back to the Botvinnik era of best among equals.

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
Topalov will probably be number 1 by the end of this tournament judging by his form. He is 5 virtual rating points behind Carlsen which translates to half a point (in classical scoring system) which he could easily make up in 6 rounds."

Should have, Could have, Would have, Blah Blah Blah... Magnus is #1 now! Eat it schwanzmeister.

Anonymous said...

since when do people do ratings as of the middle of a tournament?
This is a bit too much hype.
Lets wait until after the tournament before we start celebrating or mourning.

Bobby F. said...

These players are, at the moment, quite equal in strength.

Learning from the videos and interviews with Susan in Bilbabo, Topalov has impressed me as beeing a frank and polite gentleman. He even felt sorry for Magnus immediately after the win. Very emphatic.

I like the live-rating-fuzz. Chess needs more fuzz. It creats headlines in the media and it fill up blog comments like this! He-he

Anonymous said...

Big deal, every round elo-points switch. Carlsen plays a bad tournament if he really is no 1, he's not no 1 here!

Anonymous said...

Exactly. It is funny to say he is number 1 when Topalov is outperforming him in this tournament. Carlsen is doing well but he will have to do better next 6 games than he has relative to Topalov or Topalov will win the tournament convincingly and get the higher rating.

Anonymous said...

"Exactly. It is funny to say he is number 1 when Topalov is outperforming him in this tournament."

He's number one on the unofficial list. That's a fact. Is that so hard to understand?

Being number one on the list (or FIDE's list for that matter) doesn't necessarily make you the world's strongest player, especially when the differences between the 5 first players are so small. But that doesn't change the fact that your listed first on the unofficial list. Besides, it does have a symbolic meaning. Your commment only reflects your lack of understanding of how the rating system actually works.

"Carlsen is doing well but he will have to do better next 6 games than he has relative to Topalov or Topalov will win the tournament convincingly and get the higher rating."

And how do you know that Topalov will continue to win his next games? (answer: You don't). Would you say that Topalov outperformed Magnus if Topalov draws and loses his next games? I think it's too early to say who's outperforming who here.

He did win against Magnus and Anand, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he'll win the tournament. He still faces Anand with black and there's no guarantee that Topalov will win against Magnus with white (Magnus has actually beaten Topa with black before, and has a plus score overall against Topa).

The truth is that any of these strong players could easily beat each other on a good day. Nobody is unbeatable in this field, including Topalov, so please don't give us any more of that c*ap.

Anonymous said...

Big deal, do yóu understand that.
Who said anon claimed Topalov would end on top of Carlsen here? He mentioned the possibility and the irrelevance of the daily rating list.

Anonymous said...

Topa is in great shape, no doubt about that!

The live rating is as valid as the FIDE rating. The differense is that FIDE take "the temparature" 4 times a year, whereas the live rating does so after every match.

But the rating doesn't tell anything about the outcome of a match f.i. between Topa and Anand, but it says who have been the strongest player for the last periode.

By the way, I expect Topa to struggle against Carlsen in the next match and consider Carlen the favourite. He still has a psycological advantage over Topalov

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